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uno
posted 25/04/2010, 09:30
@ arfen I know what you mean. The game really starts to sink in towards the end. After having beat it, I can definitely say I will start to play it again soon. Once you "grasp" the controls and movesets pulling off well-timed combos is VERY gratifying. This game proves that controls are everything. Message | Report |
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Arfen
posted 25/04/2010, 12:43
I'm replaying this game now. I take a long time to use motion controll well first time, but now i know i'm hsving a most fun time and combats are so fun when you know how to combat... do no combat sitting on the sofa, stand up to combat ;) standing up you can move better and do your best Message | Report |
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siavm
posted 24/04/2010, 03:08
Here is the reason this game is not selling well. The ad for the game was awful. That commercial focused more on the costumes than the game. If all I saw was the commercial I would have thought this was a kiddie game. They should have made a ad that focused on the game and its grittiness. Message | Report |
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zgamer5
posted 24/04/2010, 02:10
this didn't sell that well for two reasons: -1- it's not a nintendo again, or doesn't have anything to do with mario. -2- it's not a sports game. Message | Report |
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scottie
posted 24/04/2010, 01:26
No multiplayer turned this from a 'must buy' for me to a 'I might pick it up if I have nothing else to play and it's cheap' I don't understand why they thought it was a good idea Message | Report |
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MarioGalaxy
posted 23/04/2010, 08:35
The reason could more simple. The is a huge differences between a game published by Nintendo and the major of Third party games. You 've to think that Nintendo is probably the best game editor in the world, so, for third parties is hard to do games like that (of course, there are exceptions from Capcom, Ea or some publishers, but not much on the Wii). And, more important than this, is that the audience of the Wii are normally nintendo fans, so when 2 or 3 good games are on sale, maybe people prefer pay for a Nintendo game than a third party game. Is very difficult make games with nintendo as a competitor. This argument could be one on the reasons third parties sell just well. Message | Report |
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aoixgp
posted 23/04/2010, 04:13
How exactly should Nintendo fans support third party games? Message | Report |
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menx64
posted 22/04/2010, 10:37
@OmegaRugalv3: Why are we suppose to support third party games? I am just buy what I want to play, and the same goes for everybody... you can not blame wii audience if they dont like this kind of games... I have RS and I like it, but that doesnot mean every wii owner have to do the same... Message | Report |
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Buzzi
posted 22/04/2010, 06:53
I think the main reasons why this hasn't sold is no/little marketing (and for what I've seen the ads are not that great) and no multiplayer. Still I think 500k is possible if they start advertising the game better. Message | Report |
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lightningsouls
posted 22/04/2010, 06:00
I just buy this game so far I'm liking it! Message | Report |
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OmegaRugalv3
posted 22/04/2010, 03:30
Always excuses. I am Nintendo fan but it is CLEAR that Nintendo fans in general do not support third party games like they should. Stop with the excuses. Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 22/04/2010, 08:32
the reason why this game fails is that the 1st red steel promised so much but didn't deliver!!! Now Ubi has 1.3 million gamers who got burned with the first game and is gun shy to pick up anything to do with the Red Steel franchise. Karma on Ubisoft for realeasing such subpar products early on the Wii's lifetime. They released such atrocious games like red steel, monster 4x4, blazing angels, GT pro, and a turd version of Far Cry. Ubi is so greedy and really wants to just make a buck off Wii owners. I might pick this game up when it hits $15 (even though the game is good) as I don't think Ubi deserves success on the Wii platform!!! Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 22/04/2010, 06:17
Yeah, it should reach 140.000 at the next salesupdate. Thats not great, sure, but not that bad after the first month. Let´s see how strong the legs will be. Message | Report |
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Arfen
posted 21/04/2010, 10:32
I think this game will be a long time runner... next week will be the last of a whole month & maybe it¡ll rwach 140K.. not bad at all people is esceptic with this one cause the flop of the first one.. so let pas time & will see Message | Report |
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Metallicube
posted 21/04/2010, 10:09
I think Ubi wrote the death sentence for this game when they made if motion plus exclusive, AND axed multiplayer. I think a main reason more people bought RS1 is the multi. Without it, or online, it sorely lacks in replay value. It's Madworld all over again, great game but terrible replay value and lack of content for its price. Once it drops to $20-30, sales will pick up, like they did for Madworld. That's when I'm planning on picking it up at least. Message | Report |
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aragod
posted 21/04/2010, 09:34
poor ubisoft, they were really passionate about this game, too bad fans can't appriciate it Message | Report |
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juicy
posted 21/04/2010, 07:07
i think this the biggest reason this game is failing cuz of no multiplayer Message | Report |
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juicy
posted 21/04/2010, 07:07
i think this the biggest reason this game is failing cuz of no multiplayer Message | Report |
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Wagram
posted 21/04/2010, 05:44
Horrible horrible sales. Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 21/04/2010, 08:48
It doesn't matter as this game is doing better than DARK VOID!!! That game must have cost Capcom 3x as much as this game to develop!!!! Message | Report |
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masterjedi
posted 19/04/2010, 10:18
I don't know how to post links, but the development cost of Wii games is generally 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of developing an HD game on the PS3 or 360. Developing costs for those systems are generally between 20-40 million. For instance, God of War III costed Santa Monica Studios $44 million to develop. That includes shipping, salary, retailer profits, publisher profits and advertising costs. At $60 per copy sold, they needed to sell around 733k to break even. Red Steel 1 cost Ubisoft about 12.75 mil to develop and release. At full retail of $50, it only needed to sell around 240k to break even. (I did some digging to find these numbers and development costs for RS 1 were a little over the 5-10 mil range, but those numbers are still accurate for the majority of Wii games.) Message | Report |
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DOLBYdigital
posted 19/04/2010, 03:47
Yeah others is really sad although can't say much for NA either. Really hoping for more sales of this fantastic game mainly so other devs will make more FPS/slashers. The controls just work so dam well its sad to see this do so poorly :( Message | Report |
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uno
posted 19/04/2010, 01:26
this game just gets more and more fun as you progress thru it. More moves and combos really make you feel powerful. Some awesome finishing moves too!! Message | Report |
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masterjedi
posted 19/04/2010, 12:31
Ubisoft is probably already over halfway to making a profit on this game with the current sales. It only takes 5-10 mil to release a game on the Wii so if this sells 200k at full price it should break even. Message | Report |
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mustang
posted 18/04/2010, 06:05
keep th sales coming support the game,it's a masterpiece.. Message | Report |
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Roar_Of_War
posted 17/04/2010, 06:26
So far this game is doing worse than The Conduit. A bit, anyway. It could pick up eventually, but at its current rate it'd be a stretch to say this game will even make it to half a mil lifetime. 350,000-400,000 seems more realistic. For now, at least. Let's see how this game legs out for 10 weeks. Message | Report |
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hankakacjd
posted 17/04/2010, 04:00
I wish piracy didn't over-rule the games industry. this is ridiculous. a lot of adult themed games perform badly because of piracy. but I think for any adult game to succeed they'll have to release a lot of online functions to elevate the success because I don't think you can play pirated games on-line. lets hope monster hunters performs better Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 17/04/2010, 07:48
In others you have a huge group of hackers. Message | Report |
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Intendo21
posted 17/04/2010, 12:14
I don't get why this game doesn't accomodate to left-handed players. Message | Report |
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Snake612
posted 16/04/2010, 07:43
In my opnion, these are pretty decent sales for a game like this. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 16/04/2010, 01:12
any predictions for 10weeks? I say 200k............. Message | Report |
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Arfen
posted 15/04/2010, 02:16
It counts 3 weeks, but first one was only a few days. let this go and see how far can go in a full month... With NA relase data, Red Steel 2 is on its 17th day... almost 2 weeks!! and is over 100k!!! It could do better for sure, but it's not doing bad at all.. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 15/04/2010, 02:23
I bought it, so far its alright and I'm glad I got it.............. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 14/04/2010, 09:44
O its total is "113,243" Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 14/04/2010, 09:41
btw why does ot say 11k when it totals over 12k? Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 14/04/2010, 09:35
10 weeks 250k, I think it will do as well as anyother wii game like conduit or mad world............. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 14/04/2010, 09:33
it wouldnt sell on 360 or ps3 but they should just port it with no upgrades since a 360/ps3 owner wouldn't no the difference in this game anyway "looks that good"............... Message | Report |
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intro94
posted 14/04/2010, 06:57
@11ht another dreamer who thinks hd games cant possibly never bomb.Comon they might lose even more, if we recall TEEN shooters not doing hot there(specially without online). Dont even pretend that every thing can be solved expending money porting stuff. Message | Report |
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11ht11
posted 14/04/2010, 04:53
poor red steel 2, you deserve much more, already out the top 50 in NA. Even with all those ads, the game didnt sell  ubi should release this on the Ps3 and 360 Message | Report |
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Nintendogamer
posted 14/04/2010, 01:55
Over 100K at least, good going with hardly any adverts. Message | Report |
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Arfen
posted 14/04/2010, 01:33
Sonic & Sega all Stars racing is on week 7 and has sold 70K in NA, so this is doing well. hope legs in others specially Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 14/04/2010, 01:09
Ohh, wait, it´s not a complete month. It started in US at 03.23 and 03.26 in others. So there are 13 more days for sales. Well, I guess it will be around 150.000 at the end of april. Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 14/04/2010, 01:07
Yeah, it´s not that great. Hopefully its climbing high enough before the strong price cut. Message | Report |
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mmpop
posted 14/04/2010, 10:59
110 K first month, hmm. Message | Report |
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roccerfeller
posted 14/04/2010, 04:47
come on others others sales are weak! for many core Wii games (not named HOTD OVerkill) Message | Report |
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Intendo21
posted 14/04/2010, 02:38
Good the sales held. Message | Report |
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Metallicube
posted 14/04/2010, 02:30
I think this game can crawl its way to Ubisoft's prediction of 500k. I am waiting for a price drop and I know a few people who want this game but just haven't gotten it yet. I think Wii games just tend to be waited out more by people instead of clamoring day one like 360 titles. Message | Report |
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stimpi13
posted 14/04/2010, 01:51
i need this game Message | Report |
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younghavok
posted 13/04/2010, 04:53
100k first month, not too bad. It'll continue to rise no doubt and as word of mouth spreads the sales will hold steady no doubt. Interested in seeing how far this goes. I still havent got my copy yet but I will Message | Report |
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bazmeistergen
posted 13/04/2010, 01:12
I love this game!! Message | Report |
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mustang
posted 13/04/2010, 11:56
this game is awesome from start to finish..plz wii owners buy the game...total greatness Message | Report |
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uno
posted 13/04/2010, 03:34
If you own this game or plan on buying it, I highly recommend getting the Nyko Kama (wireless nunchuk). It allows you to move freely and swing fluidly. Makes the game EVEN more fun. Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 12/04/2010, 05:58
@dolby good points but I think there are ppl who just got burned with the first game that is hesitant to try the second. It's a matter of you reap what you sow; or Karma is a b!tch Ubisoft. Message | Report |
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Kenology
posted 12/04/2010, 04:43
This game is so awesome. I didn't really start getting into it until the third level; now I can't put it down. Great game. Grab this, folks. Message | Report |
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DOLBYdigital
posted 12/04/2010, 12:04
And yet another game will sell lousy thanks to cheap Wii owners who can't recognize a great game if it smacks them in the face. Oh well, not surprised really. Sure it might sell well in the long run but that is after they drop the price. And some wonder why 3rd parties are 'scared' of the wii player base. At least there are some people enjoying an amazing game :) Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 11/04/2010, 10:06
these screens are so good I think I'm going to buy it in a few weeks.......... just thinking like mental practice I know this game is good, I can imagine exactly how its played........... Message | Report |
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Hephaestos
posted 11/04/2010, 12:14
i'm sorry to say, but from the sales, this seems like a game whose price will plumeth quite fast... will wait for the usual 15£ price tag... Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 10/04/2010, 10:51
just remember in its 1st 2weeks its beating "just dance" do you think week 3 just dance will catch up? might not Message | Report |
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sorento
posted 10/04/2010, 10:51
Maybe he can reach 500 000 it's the objective of ubisoft. maybe more with low price Message | Report |
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Zucas
posted 10/04/2010, 07:45
Well game took me a solid 10 hours to beat which included doing the side missions. Overall I'm rather impressed with the title. Graphics were stunning in this game and one of the most polished I've seen from a 3rd party on the Wii. Progression and missions could have used some more variation but still entertaining enough to not make it "feel like work". But really the best thing of this was the gameplay. Is the first Wii game I've played that I couldn't "cheat" to really get through the game. Waggle will not work in this game. You have to do the motions right or you will not last long. So this game really gave me the feeling of being in the spot of the main character and doing a lot of the things he did. And man did it feel cool haha. Only problem is it hurt my shoulder haha, but that is because this is an old baseball injury and not the game's faults. For those still on the fence of this title, I will say it works and it works well. There are some things in the game that could have been fixed or made better, but the core experience is a blast and you'll enjoy every minute of it. This is the Wii experience you dreamed when you first got the console so enjoy yourself. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 10/04/2010, 01:55
I think sales will go up in america and down in others next week or so, I don't think this game is going to flop and if it does it will probably flop at 500k........... I think sales will probably improve Message | Report |
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NeoStar9
posted 09/04/2010, 09:53
The sales for the game reflect the marketing push behind the game which was poor at best. That's the same like many if not all 3rd party Wii games. The exceptions being Wii Dance, Mario & Sonic, and now Monster Hunter Tri. No one should have expected huge up front sales for this game. That doesn't mean it won't continue to sell over time. Many Wii games do. However if this doesn't sell well it is because of Ubisoft. That was my fear from the very start. You don't push your own game don't expect it to sell. Gaming ads at midnight for a game that easily could be marketed to young teens due to content didn't make any sense. There were no daytime tv ads from what I could tell and Wii games need them unless they already have an established brand. Third parties know this but refuse to do it on the Wii. Message | Report |
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guy327
posted 09/04/2010, 07:43
Oh ok. I understand probably in your circle of friends it doesn't happen much even though i don't live there i assure you there is a good amount of piracy, because it is everywhere. I live in New York city and here is just amazing, everyone that i know who has a PSP has it hack, almost everyone i know has an R4 in their DS and a bunch of people has moded x360 and Wii. House of the dead overkill was downloaded 800k from a torrent site last year. So all of this to me is just really sad. Is bad for all of us :/ Message | Report |
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Cobra_
posted 09/04/2010, 07:42
I am from Europe. The eastern block (but we are part of EU). I did not buy the game because I could not buy the special preorder edition - Play.com exclusive. The site won't ship to my country for no reason at all. Either I get hold of it on eBay or I am buying the regular version when it is cheap Message | Report |
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Jezze
posted 09/04/2010, 07:26
Thanks, but I don't need an explanaition. I live in europe and don't see this in my circle of friends. Are there any real numbers of piracy in europe (and the united states) on Wii? Sorry for my harsh reply earlier, but I can't belvie that there is so much more piracy in europe than in the united states. Message | Report |
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guy327
posted 09/04/2010, 07:08
Jezze let me explain it to you since you dont seem to understand him. It is selling bad in Europe because there is a lot of piracy going on over there. They dont buy the games but are always complaining that no one is making core games on the Wii. And he doesn't like that so he is angry. get it? Message | Report |
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Jezze
posted 09/04/2010, 06:30
Timber, your comment is the stupidest I ever had to read! Message | Report |
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Timber8wolf
posted 09/04/2010, 04:01
It sells so bad in Europa because most of the Copygamer sitting there!!! They buy no games, but always whine that there don't coming core Games!! *angry* Message | Report |
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puffy
posted 09/04/2010, 09:26
I picked it up three days ago.. I have mixed feelings about the game.. The controls are pretty good, definitely better than most Wii games and the graphics are some of the best on the system but the structure of the game isn't exactly what I expected. I haven't seen any advertising for the game though, so I doubt many people know about the game. Message | Report |
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mustang
posted 09/04/2010, 02:40
very very bad sales,come on wii owners buy this game Message | Report |
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16-bit gamer
posted 09/04/2010, 02:12
i'm normally very optimistic about game selling, but this one i don't have a good feeling about...horrible week 2 sales Message | Report |
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*Sound Of Rain
posted 09/04/2010, 01:12
I got this game for my birthday and only played 1 hour so far but I like it but I think that has a lot to do with me enjoying the Motion+ controls. Message | Report |
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Tuulikk
posted 09/04/2010, 12:01
I bought it last week. Looks like i did not do much of a impact on the sales. :) The sales are a bit sad, but i'm not so sure how right they are as many "dead" games are back selling from nowhere just like they never died. Even if the sales are right, it can still have legs, sales can go up and down and it might get lucky at Christmas sales later this year. Message | Report |
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lostfan
posted 08/04/2010, 06:19
WTF happend? Awful week 2 sales! =( Message | Report |
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primogen18
posted 08/04/2010, 05:48
hopefully this has legs :( Message | Report |
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guy327
posted 08/04/2010, 03:54
by the way i got this game like couple weeks ago and i am like 6 hours into it, very satisfying so far. It grows on you a little too slow pace at the begin but it picks up. :) Message | Report |
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guy327
posted 08/04/2010, 03:50
yeah is a shame that the core gamer doesn't want to pay for their games. What little love they have for the industry :/ be it PSP Wii 360 and DS they just been downloading for free. :/ Message | Report |
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uno
posted 08/04/2010, 12:57
O NO PANIC!!! The game isnt selling the way people want it too!!! AAAHHHhhhhhhhh! Message | Report |
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Orlik666
posted 08/04/2010, 12:21
really bad sales... Message | Report |
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mmpop
posted 08/04/2010, 12:02
Im actually very suprised at this very slow sales. I thought Red Steel 2 was going to sell very well but hey, Wii owners dont want to pay for Wii core games so whats you going to do? Now its proboly going to be a lot of casual games for the Wii exept Nintendos own games and the only to blame is the core gamers. Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 08/04/2010, 10:07
just dance did 52k in its first 2 weeks and redsteel2 did about 89k so it could still be alive just don't no when people will notice it if they do is the thing or even if enough people would want it............ Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 08/04/2010, 09:54
100k next week but who knows it could still catch on although I'm thinking probably not............I hope they try to advertise it a little more on tv and gamestop just to find the full potential of a average action fps.......... Message | Report |
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menx64
posted 08/04/2010, 07:14
I havent buy it yet, but I will soon, I am going to get it along with MH3... Message | Report |
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mpereira
posted 08/04/2010, 06:15
Reasons: -Piracy -Franchise (people didn't like the first Red Steel so they don't buy the second) -Gamers don't want motion control Message | Report |
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shokenchi
posted 08/04/2010, 06:12
i think wii core gamers are just waiting for the price to drop because they know it will happen fast since there are a lot of casual wii owners. nintendo games never drop the price so they cant wait for it. plus most of the top games from third parties are not on the wii so that doesnt help third party core games on the wii, leading to less support. wii third party core support is just lacking compared to hd systems. Message | Report |
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XA3
posted 08/04/2010, 05:36
The thing is simple, wii owners don't buy original games because of the piracy. The most of the people have the motion plus thanks to the Wii Sports Resort. Message | Report |
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sizynski
posted 08/04/2010, 05:20
Good rental, but why would you pay $50 or $60 for a single player fairly short shooting game? Sales aren't a shocker to me. Message | Report |
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mustang
posted 08/04/2010, 05:12
u wii owmers sick not to buy this game,this is the best game out there for the wii...my second thoughts all 3rd party companies should stop support the wii..jus can't believe this...people buy up the game plz!!! Message | Report |
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Metallicube
posted 08/04/2010, 04:20
Wow. I'm usually able to come up with a logical reason why a quality 3rd party core game on Wii doesn't sell, but I gotta admit on this one I'm totally stumped. Only thing I can think of is maybe people don't trust this game after the mediocre Red Steel 1. Message | Report |
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Red4ADevil
posted 08/04/2010, 03:52
This better surpass games like dead space: extraction Message | Report |
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famousringo
posted 08/04/2010, 02:50
Steep drop in NA and the second week bounce I was expecting in EU didn't show up. Might not be a total bomb, but this is not looking good at all. Message | Report |
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Chrizum
posted 08/04/2010, 02:43
Those are some terrible sales... can't imagine Ubi being satisfied with this. Message | Report |
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SaviorX
posted 08/04/2010, 02:39
What a steep Americas drop. Just like all 'core' 3rd party Wii games, doomed to the ~14k second week. Message | Report |
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kilik
posted 08/04/2010, 12:12
Less than 0.1% of Wii owners bought it first week. Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 07/04/2010, 09:32
Week 2 not that bad in others. Now lets get 20k in USA and we can celebrate the first 100k Message | Report |
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jeffrey9999
posted 07/04/2010, 05:47
I wouldn't be surprised if this game hit rock bottom but then again I wouldnt be surprised if sales slowly started to rise either.............cant wait till its updated to week-2-through-6.......... Message | Report |
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DrYon
posted 06/04/2010, 02:18
Don't worry guys, this game will keep up in the end. It's getting got advertising and word of mouth, it'll meet Ubisoft expectation sooner or later. Message | Report |
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Ninten78
posted 06/04/2010, 05:19
Im interested...should i get it? Message | Report |
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DOLBYdigital
posted 06/04/2010, 02:28
Cmon week 2 sales! Im really hoping for a steady hold although may be over estimating like I usually do with phenomenal Wii games that never sell as well as they deserve :( Message | Report |
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Arfen
posted 05/04/2010, 02:30
I just beat the game. Is a fun and well done game. the sword control is superb. I like the art design a lot but if i have to say something negative i would say that sometimes the games turns a little repetitive, there aren't many different enemies, and I'va found 3 bugs in the game i I had to reset to can continue. But after all, a fun, cool and enjoyable game Message | Report |
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mustang
posted 05/04/2010, 07:49
wii owners buy the fuckin game,support third parties...red steel 2 is a masterpiece. thank u ubisoft for a job well done Message | Report |
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Zucas
posted 04/04/2010, 08:56
I'm really enjoying this. Finally had some time with spring break to get deeper into this and it is a very solid experience. Controls are what I wanted out of the first one haha. Very solid and smooth transitions all around. Still not 1:1 but good enough for me right now. Or pretty much enough where it's close enough to make me feel like I'm doing it but not too close where I let down the character on screen who is an expert and me who knows nothing about how to handle a sword haha. Message | Report |
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z101
posted 04/04/2010, 08:46
a liitle advertising would do wonder to the sales ubi :) red steel is not a well known brand like call of duty that will sell a million on wii without advertising. Message | Report |
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Intendo21
posted 04/04/2010, 02:12
Red Steel 2 had a better start than Call of Duty: Reflex Edition and it has almost sold a million. Message | Report |
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adam84
posted 03/04/2010, 08:00
@avalokist come back in a month then judge please. Message | Report |
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naspel158
posted 03/04/2010, 06:28
RS2 looks very good. But unfortunately, this game could not come to HD. Message | Report |
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avalokist
posted 03/04/2010, 04:13
3rd party game makers should abandon Nintendo consoles Message | Report |
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mortono
posted 03/04/2010, 07:04
The swordplay is the only good thing in this game. Message | Report |
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Games4Fun
posted 03/04/2010, 02:24
Pretty fun game so far, but you really got to be careful how into it you get or you hit things and knock things over... lol Message | Report |
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Joel12345
posted 02/04/2010, 10:43
poor game :( Message | Report |
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Siko1989
posted 02/04/2010, 06:41
this is the type of game that has great legs... Others need to help though Message | Report |
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killeryoshis
posted 02/04/2010, 04:36
@widescreen Is this game a flop? http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ Message | Report |
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widescreen
posted 02/04/2010, 02:36
is this game a flop? Message | Report |
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Soma
posted 01/04/2010, 09:55
Finally got it, will play it today! =D Message | Report |
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Kihniö
posted 01/04/2010, 09:08
Have you learned anything.! Sales in Others(expecially Wii games) aren`t so frontloaded. Sales will pick up Message | Report |
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killeryoshis
posted 01/04/2010, 07:36
These sales are not bad -_-. They well sell better over time. Trust me. It was advertised 1st week always depends on reception of the last game. As time passes word of mouth will start to take over. Just wait they'll pull respectable numbers a year from now and we'll all be laughing at our old selves Message | Report |
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aoixgp
posted 01/04/2010, 07:08
I see this hitting a mil Message | Report |
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Siko1989
posted 01/04/2010, 09:03
jeffheartnintendo it did have ad's, it was on when southpark was on Message | Report |
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jeffheartnintendo
posted 01/04/2010, 08:42
With no advertising I think that the sales in North America are good. The (Others) sales are a bit sad. Come on people if you havent picked it up yet, do it! Its a great game! Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 01/04/2010, 08:10
IF production cost of PS3 did go down I expect the same for the Wii since it's using basically last generation techniques. The average Wii game cost anywhere between $2-$5M to develop and top tier games like Zelda and Galaxy (though I think galaxy is avg now since it's reusing the same engine) cost around $8M-$10M. The average cost of a PS3 game at the moment is $18-$28M. With GoW III costing 44M and Killzone II at over $50M. Therefore the number of copies a game needs to sell in order to produce a profit is significantly lower on the Wii than PS3. I heard Reggie say 150-200K is the thereshold of a profit for a Wii title. That's why we see Sega, Ubi, EA still pumping outsequels/ titles like The Conduit II, NMH:DS, and MoH series on the Wii Message | Report |
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drakesfortune
posted 01/04/2010, 03:39
@oni - PS3 USUALLY costs 3 to 4 times as much to develop for. I'm sure that RS2 cost a lot less than GoW, but at the same time, Ubi poured a lot more cash into RS2 than the average. Clearly they spent some dough on this game, and I'd speculate that it cost no less than half what the normal PS3 game costs now. Plus it's not as expensive as it used be to develop for PS3 since there is a large code base, and most engines are built, which reduces the costs further. Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 01/04/2010, 03:20
PS3 also cost 4-5x more to develop. Part of the reason for the lower sales than the original is that Ubi really screwed the consumer on the first game. Many now will tlake a wait and see attitude on this game. You reap what you sow I guess. Speaking of bombs Dante's Inferno isn't doing too hot on the PS3 despite the massive advertising campaign and being a very well made (visually and technically) game Message | Report |
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Mahorosan
posted 01/04/2010, 01:58
sad, but not that surprised either. Game is fun though, deserves more -_- Message | Report |
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intro94
posted 31/03/2010, 10:21
ouch?i jusst remembered reflex starting with 20k and now its and 1mil.i wont say anything and look dumb 4 weeks later here just yet. Message | Report |
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wesker496
posted 31/03/2010, 09:54
Terrible sales! What the hell happened? Message | Report |
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primogen18
posted 31/03/2010, 07:31
I have to say roccerfeller, I would agree about the majority of Wii games, but I have seen a decent amount of advertisements for this game on TV. I still think it will have some legs though. Message | Report |
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roccerfeller
posted 31/03/2010, 05:37
haha ouch. not too surprising though. PS3 gets 4 1 million sellers, Wii gets 4 struggling to break 100k. The difference? the PS3 pubs actually put money and effort into advertising. Message | Report |
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kilik
posted 31/03/2010, 09:33
wil have legs. probably 600k ltd. Message | Report |
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Jezze
posted 31/03/2010, 08:57
I also expected more, but the sales aren't that bad. Message | Report |
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Vas-y
posted 31/03/2010, 08:37
Very bad sales! Message | Report |
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z101
posted 31/03/2010, 08:21
I think this game will sell over month steadily nad will easily get the 700.000. By the way, how many sales days are in this first week? Message | Report |
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drakesfortune
posted 31/03/2010, 06:03
You can NOT compare any Call of Duty game's sales to this game. Call of Duty is the BIGGEST 3rd party name in video games right now. If it says Call of Duty on the box, it'll have a long burn, no matter the platform. Red Steel is in NO WAY in that category with CoD. No way. I hope they get their 500k, and they probably will get there, but this game needed to launch at the same time as motion plus, and they blew it big time by missing that window. Message | Report |
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Bobbuffalo
posted 31/03/2010, 05:47
55K on week 1? Not bad. WaW sold less than this. Message | Report |
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Soma
posted 31/03/2010, 05:04
mine will arrive on friday, hope the sales won't be adjusted down :S Message | Report |
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Tayne
posted 31/03/2010, 04:48
It's going to be a long road to 500K Ubisoft Message | Report |
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uno
posted 31/03/2010, 03:23
hopefully word of mouth of how AMAZING this game is will boost it. Hopefullly...... Message | Report |
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Chrizum
posted 31/03/2010, 02:27
To me, the US sales are surprisingly good. A first week of almost 70k isn't bad at all for a Wii game. I'm pretty sure it'll reach 500k within the year, which is Ubisofts expectation. Message | Report |
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DOLBYdigital
posted 31/03/2010, 01:20
While the sales are 'disappointing' they are basically what I was expecting. The game is simply phenomenal and I can only hope it gets to 200k before a price drop. Hope this doesn't deter other devs from creating first person shooter slashers since everything just works so dam well :( Message | Report |
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aoixgp
posted 31/03/2010, 12:27
This could sell the way COD Reflex did Message | Report |
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Fededx
posted 31/03/2010, 12:19
@Buzzi That's not true. First of all, 1,20 million people have the first game, so it IS a popular franchise after all... It's not an unknown game, that's for sure. Second, I'm a Nintendo fan and yes, everybody is right, I buy Nintendo games without hesitating, and when I'm gonna buy a third party game, I actually think a lot about it, since Nintendo games >>> third party games... That's a true, if you grew up with Nintendo you know it... So, it's true, in the end, it's really hard for 3rd party games to sell on Wii, either they are advertised or not... Even companies like Capcom and Square Enix are finding it difficult (well, SE just released crappy games, but Capcom is a HELL of a company!) Message | Report |
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Product
posted 30/03/2010, 11:06
55k for 5 days sales is not that bad. Message | Report |
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drakesfortune
posted 30/03/2010, 10:44
Horrid sales, and I've seen quite a few ads for this. Not good... Message | Report |
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Metallicube
posted 30/03/2010, 10:22
Wonder if this game will ever reach a million. It'll be a slow crawl there but it could make it. Hell if the first Red Steel can make it, with a far smaller install base, this one better. Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 30/03/2010, 09:51
oni-link posted 23/03/2010, 08:30 looks to have anywhere between 50K to 60k for the first week of release in the America's according to the 30k preorders based on March 13 2010 data. Let's see if I come close. I guess I was right on the money tree. Message | Report |
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Ninpanda
posted 30/03/2010, 08:12
@Falk Sturmfels Whew. That explains a lot. Thanks. *Insert relieved emotion here* But it doesn't really matter, since high-profile Wii games aren't as front-heavy as most high-profile releases on the PS360. It's almost impossible to tell how well this game will sell based on the first week. (Which wasn't even a full one in others.) Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 30/03/2010, 07:39
Gentlemen, in OTHERS the game hit the most stores on FRIDAY. So these 12.000 just show one or two days. 70.000 is the typical Wii-Start for Games with a lifetime around 500-700k. Hopefully thats enough. Message | Report |
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josewiisantos
posted 30/03/2010, 07:32
This looks like is actually selling, unlike what everyone is saying here. The Others sells are bad but America is selling well. Its doing way better than no more heroes 2 although thats pretty sad. NO more heroes is awesome, havent played Red steel 2 yet but will soon. Message | Report |
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Zornica
posted 30/03/2010, 07:29
wii games sell over time... first week doesn´t mean anything Message | Report |
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Smeags
posted 30/03/2010, 06:58
I hope more people are informed of this great game over time.  Message | Report |
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Buzzi
posted 30/03/2010, 06:40
@Fededx The fact is that the Wii userbase is not like the HD consoles ones. The Wii userbase is not informed, does not buy magazines or surf the web. If a game is good, they usually buy it, but if they don't know it exists they won't. Actually this game will sell decently, 500k is very possible, but with a better marketing it could open over 100k. Message | Report |
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killeryoshis
posted 30/03/2010, 06:37
For those who said these sales are bad. Are no worse than those who said GTA on DS was a flop. This game will sell better over time Message | Report |
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Fededx
posted 30/03/2010, 06:16
Don't blame ubi bazmeistergen, everytime a game doesn't sell on wii, you blame the publisher for not advertising, I'm tired of that. The truth is good 3rd party Wii games don't sell, and that is really sad... :( Message | Report |
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bazmeistergen
posted 30/03/2010, 06:08
Not the best start. Hopefully people will realise the utter awesomeness and get on board. Ubisoft have not backed the game really, not enough anyway. Message | Report |
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dontsee
posted 30/03/2010, 05:48
not a good start in NA either Message | Report |
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StarcraftManiac
posted 30/03/2010, 04:47
Ouch, too bad Message | Report |
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killeryoshis
posted 30/03/2010, 04:42
others always have weak launches. Though they always have the best legs. Just compare it to NSMBW Message | Report |
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SubiyaCryolite
posted 30/03/2010, 03:59
Ouchies! Message | Report |
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bmmb1
posted 30/03/2010, 03:37
Others "core" Wii gamers have left the building confirmed (even NSMBWii didn't do as well on Others as elsewhere). Message | Report |
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Fededx
posted 30/03/2010, 03:29
Oh noes... :( Message | Report |
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Chrizum
posted 30/03/2010, 02:06
People, Wii games ALWAYS release on friday in Europe. 12k just isn't very good. Let's hope for legs. Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 30/03/2010, 01:49
Oh, if this is just day one sales ... man, could be around 30k in others! Message | Report |
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jeffheartnintendo
posted 30/03/2010, 06:22
Just bought the game yesterday. Looks great and plays great! Support this game and buy it! Message | Report |
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zaMy
posted 30/03/2010, 03:10
This game looks really fun, one of the major push points for me, we'll see if more games like this come out I might have to pickup a Wii Message | Report |
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Andyliini
posted 29/03/2010, 07:00
Since Red Steel 2 was released on Friday, does in only include the first day sales in that chart? I'll predict about 10k in UK. I really hope this one sells well, altough I still fear the worst. Indeed, I'm a pessimist. Message | Report |
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IxisNaugus
posted 29/03/2010, 06:51
This week it was at #5 in the Wii specific chart for the UK right after Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics, seems to be doing fairly well here. http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110030 Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 29/03/2010, 02:07
I agree with all of you. Outstanding controls. Damn, we waited so long for a action-game like this. Message | Report |
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-PaNdOrA-
posted 29/03/2010, 03:04
I actually saw a commercial for this game! Two nights in a row :o First time i've seen a commercial for a third party Wii game Message | Report |
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freddy1403
posted 28/03/2010, 09:21
very great games!!!!! Message | Report |
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roccerfeller
posted 28/03/2010, 07:14
I didnt see much hype for this game anywhere sadly. Everywhere in the stores I went to had ample copies, and I have not seen one ad on TV. Why the hell do third party games come out on the Wii, if the publishers are not willing to support them like they do on HD consoles??? Message | Report |
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Siko1989
posted 27/03/2010, 06:50
if you dont buy this game you have problems lol Message | Report |
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DOLBYdigital
posted 26/03/2010, 01:18
Amazing gameplay with very very tight controls. Truly sets the bar for all First Person Shooter Slashers going forward. Can't wait for the eventual sequel that will have online and come out for Wii and PS3 :) Message | Report |
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Rainbird
posted 25/03/2010, 11:05
This game is so awesome! Message | Report |
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Jezze
posted 25/03/2010, 09:24
Got it, play it, love it! Message | Report |
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Rawnchie14
posted 25/03/2010, 01:30
I'm counting on the next Conduit. Hype machines don't work for the Wii. Message | Report |
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Intendo21
posted 25/03/2010, 04:19
I really want to see these sales because I don't think it will flop like The Conduit but then again... who knows? Message | Report |
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SuperAnthony64
posted 25/03/2010, 01:35
This game is very good. Message | Report |
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freddy1403
posted 24/03/2010, 04:15
yeah!!!!very great games!!!!!!!!!!!! Message | Report |
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Smeags
posted 24/03/2010, 03:01
Just bought the game... looking forward to playing it today.  Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 24/03/2010, 02:35
Well, I preordered 4 Red Steel-Bundles for myself an my buddies at amazon uk. Lets hope for a quick climb-up to 500k. Message | Report |
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richardhutnik
posted 24/03/2010, 06:51
Why is this getting no hype on here, considering how much people hyped MadWorld, No More Heroes, and The Conduit. This game deserves hype! It does what a Wii FPS should be doing. Message | Report |
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NeoStar9
posted 24/03/2010, 04:58
Game is great. Loving it so far.I do hope more people buy it though and the pirating stays low. Message | Report |
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I like Bacon
posted 24/03/2010, 02:29
amazing, way better than the 1st, which I loved. Message | Report |
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Mubtee
posted 23/03/2010, 06:27
I don't think this is going to sell as well as the first, despite being better Message | Report |
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oni-link
posted 23/03/2010, 08:30
looks to have anywhere between 50K to 60k for the first week of release in the America's according to the 30k preorders based on March 13 2010 data. Let's see if I come close. Message | Report |
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CARBONERO
posted 19/03/2010, 09:19
you know what? i'm sure i'll buy it now... i just saw more videos... Message | Report |
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CARBONERO
posted 19/03/2010, 09:18
i think i'll buy it. Reviews have been great and the visuals are outstandings, i saw the intro of the first level and i was drolling... Message | Report |
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Falk Sturmfels
posted 16/03/2010, 05:07
Basterds. Game is already downloadable. Damn f...ing stealers. Message | Report |
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Mendoza85
posted 15/03/2010, 09:14
the gameplay its not 1:1.....Addictive so so... But its a fun game. I prefer modern warfare reflex Message | Report |
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Chrizum
posted 15/03/2010, 08:48
I've been playing it for days on end and it's amazing. Really addictive, fast gameplay and great visuals. Message | Report |
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Mendoza85
posted 15/03/2010, 04:21
I just playing for 1 hour and its fun but not really fun. Just rent it, not buy it. Message | Report |
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uno
posted 14/03/2010, 07:45
Just pre-ordered mine on Amazon!!! SUPER EXCITED!!!! March 23rd cant come soon enough! Message | Report |
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aragod
posted 09/03/2010, 09:15
This game has a great potential, if they can really execute the control scheme, we can be looking at a million seller here. Message | Report |
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Vas-y
posted 05/03/2010, 09:28
40k Americas, 15k Others. Will sell LTD wise a little bit better than Mad World. Message | Report |
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freddy1403
posted 05/03/2010, 12:36
I' predict 150k firts week in americas and 100k in others Message | Report |
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primogen18
posted 04/03/2010, 02:48
hm... i have not seen one single commercial for this, thanks alot ubi-sh*t... get ready for ALOT of complaining from them in the near future. Message | Report |
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KingHenry
posted 02/03/2010, 09:56
I'm predicting 95k for opening week in americas. The two previous predictions seem kind of low. Considering that this game is building off it's predecessor, and the hype around it. Also, the motion plus feature should stimulate more interest... And I think this game is marketed more than most wii games. Message | Report |
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ash3336
posted 27/02/2010, 05:59
I predict a >50k opening in Americas. With a decent opening in Others, this could have an impressive WW opening. They should release this in Japan too. Would boost the sales quite a bit. (50k LTD in Japan...) Message | Report |
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Chrizum
posted 25/02/2010, 02:24
I predict a 40k opening in Americas... Message | Report |
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ash3336
posted 25/02/2010, 03:26
Sure, the story might make up for it. I mean there are plenty of other ways to boost replayability. With multiple paths(I think this has that) or multiple endings(this one doesnt). Things like in-game achievements, deathmatch mode (a la NMH2) could all boost replayability a lot. I would just wait for a price drop before buying a game without that much replayability. Message | Report |
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Siko1989
posted 24/02/2010, 12:42
ash3336 lol yeah that would have been nice but who knows? maybe the story will make up for it? Message | Report |
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pokeclaudel
posted 08/12/2012, 08:05
Hope the make a sequel for wii U. They should make it a tradition and change the setting again. Maybe futuristic or maybe even a world similar to dishonored. Message | Report |
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DieAppleDie
posted 23/10/2012, 03:44
fantastic energetic action one of my fav new games Message | Report |
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