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Ginryu
posted 29/04/2013, 01:57
The worst Devil May Cry, a game not for fans, this is easy, ugly, awful, crap, 30 fps, mindless platforming, childish writing, amateur bugs, boring acting, useless cutscene,... With all of this it will annoy fans. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 27/04/2013, 06:09
@Rafux. Is it me who's forcing their own opinions here? You want to talk about DmC make a thread. If you have a problem with DmC and the sales take it up with Capcom. They haven't taken you seriously yet, I wonder why... Like I said I suggest you think twice before trying to force your opinions on DMC fans again. Message | Report |
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RaitheNoblesse
posted 26/04/2013, 08:38
why the f...ck isn't DMC selling well??.. it's better than any Ninja Gaiden of this gen, better than MGR:R... (only Bayonetta is still untouched at the top of the genre...) DMC has everthing it needs...cool and oringal grafix, (very) cool sound, cool charaters (not too exaggerated like in MGR:R), good synchros, an intelligent gameplay, cool upgrades, and of course good controlles and great action... it's a damn pitty, it's not selling well.... (Ninja Theory did a great reboot.., maybe the fans wanted a more "emo" kind of game/look??) Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 26/04/2013, 06:23
@A203D I can talk DmC's sales right here: IT BOMBED HARD. You act like a child. Message | Report |
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fvgc2049
posted 26/04/2013, 06:09
Nice play,but stupid story for sure. Like playing a terrorist---destroying the world for nothing---like already told by a lot of ones---do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt others following the same rule---that is freedom for everyone. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 25/04/2013, 05:57
@Rafux. Not interested. You want to talk about DmC, make a thread about it. If your not happy with Capcom's figures then take it up with Capcom. I suggest you think twice before trying to force your opinions on me again. Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 24/04/2013, 01:53
fix wrong word "on" to "one" Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 24/04/2013, 01:46
@Rafux Please remember. No matter who wants to argue this fact. The truth will not change ever about DmC's sales. The CAPCOM's decision makers just have on thing to do-----> confess your mistake. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 23/04/2013, 09:31
@A203D Fair enough, you never said you hate DMC4 but it doesn't seems you like a lot either. I haven't said DmC's gameplay isn't good I actually think is a good game but a poor Devil May Cry game because of the step back in gameplay and challenge from DMC4/3 and yes thats my opinion I'm not trying to change yours, I don't really care. I'm not pushing my opinion on anyone but you do are assuming that DMC4 was my first DMC game and you don't even know me dude. I never said DmC cost more than DMC4, I said DmC was expensive because: Same mocap studio from Avatar (also the crew had to flew to LA), outsourcing to an UK studio that made a game that sold 1.6M and still wasn't profitable (also logistics cost money), Unreal Engine license (about $700K) when they could have use the MT Framework engine for free, quite decent marketing push with pop ups in Gamestops, ads in sites like Kotaku and Gamespot and a trailer before the latest Resident Evil movie, 3 year development time(2010,2011,2012). "How do you know Capcom are specifically relating to Ninja Theory in your quotes? " Because Capcom are talking about outsourced games that bombed and DmC is an outsourced game that bombed, even Operation Raccon City sold 1.7M and Dead Rising 2 2.5M. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 23/04/2013, 12:30
I've never said I hated DMC4. All the DMC games are good games in their own right. However there is only true DMC game. That game is Devil May Cry 1. Even if DMC4 has good gameplay, I still feel there are areas outside of gameplay DMC1 is far superior. Your just forcing your opinions. How do you know DmC cost more money to make than DMC4? I haven't seen Capcom say that. How do you know Capcom are specifically relating to Ninja Theory in your quotes? Besides its also your opinion DmC's gameplay is not good. Thats not something I agree with. But you don't see me forcing this view on anyone like you are. Because I think anyone is entitled to prefer this game if they want to. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 22/04/2013, 10:48
Learn to read dude: "Strategies, plans, outlooks and other statements that are not historical facts are based on assumptions that use information currently available and reasonable judgments. Actual performance may be significantly different from these statements for a number of reasons" Still a forecast and not solid numbers or announcements. Wikipedia is a joke. Digital sales won't amount to the same number as physical sales. Capcom is losing money because "Decline in quality due to excessive outsourcing" AKA NT's DmC was an expensive step back and bombed hard. Of course its not Devil May Cry, its Devil May Cry 4. DMC3>DMC1>DMC4 You are just as bad as the people who hate DmC just because of the changes in Dante, just like them you hate DMC4 because the changes in Dante and introduction of new characters and ignore the best gameplay in the series, and by the way I dislike DmC because it was a casualised step back in gameplay and challenge, I don't love the new Dante but I really play Devil May Cry games for the gameplay. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 22/04/2013, 09:28
@Rafux. Capcom reports "consolidated forecasts" for the year ending March 29th 2013. Thats why other sites including Wikipedia have reported Capcom's number as sold. No forecast has been presented for this fiscal year. If you have a problem with that take it up with other websites and Capcom themselves. Vgchartz dosen't provide numbers for PC sales, Steam sales, or PSN and Xbox Live sales, hence why we can't see those numbers here. Believe what you want to believe; but don't tell me I have to believe anything you say. Whether DMC4 is a successor to DMC3 is not my concern, the point is that game's not Devil May Cry, it never was. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 22/04/2013, 04:17
@A203D: In that PDF it still says DmC 1.15M "REVISED FORECAST" and I don't care what "shack news" says I'll trust VG Chartz on this one. If "business results are largely in line with revised forecasts" then RE6 is undertracked by a 1M, again I'll trust VGC on this one and also the PDF says right in the beginning: "Strategies, plans, outlooks and other statements that are not historical facts are based on assumptions that use information currently available and reasonable judgments. Actual performance may be significantly different from these statements for a number of reasons" Oh but I forgot you can't read, by the way DMC4 was a succesor to DMC3 not 1. Just deal with it DmC is the biggest bomb of the decade just say it, it won't make you enjoy the game less or anything, I still enjoy PASBR and it bombed hard. "Decline in quality due to excessive outsourcing " Hahaha even Capcom knows it. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 22/04/2013, 11:12
@Rafux: http://www.shacknews.com/article/78794/resident-evil-6-dmc-below-expectations-capcom-cites-excessive-outsourcing Vgchartz isn't going to the source of the information. Various sites are reporting DmC having sold 1.15 units because of Capcom's 2013 fiscal report: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/explanation/2012/full/explanation_2012_full_01.pdf Capcom reports DmC sold 1.15 units for the year ending March 29th 2013. If you have a problem with that take it up with Capcom. "I do expect you to write I'm sorry guys I was wrong about the numbers, its true my intelligence to too low to understand that. Just like my intelligence was too low to realise DMC4 was not a true successor to DMC1." Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 22/04/2013, 10:54
@tontus. God of War Ascension has the weakest Metacritic, thus critically the weakest in the series. If you have a problem with that take it up with the people who reviewed it. They were 'anal' enough to tell the truth about that average game, not me. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 22/04/2013, 08:18
@A203D Learn to read "Capcom has also released its forecast for game sales. DmC: Devil May Cry is now EXPECTED to sell 1.15 million units, down from two million units." http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250906/capcom-halves-profit-forecast-and-cancels-games/ EXPECTED, did you catch that? They are EXPECTING to sale 1.15M down from 2M down from 5M. The rest of what you wrote just sounded crazy and I don't even want to get in there but I do expect you to write "I'm sorry guys I was wrong about the numbers DmC is indeed the biggest bomb of the decade" Message | Report |
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tontus
posted 22/04/2013, 01:05
@A203D. Isn't it sad that you make up your own facts to defend a mediocre game you like that most people don't? Capcom is forecasting that DmC will sell 1.15 million copies, not that it has reached that figure. And where did @Rafux blame Ninja Theory for those games not meeting sales expectations? Nobody thinks God of War: Ascension is the weakest in the series, that goes to God of War: Betrayal if you want to be anal, God of War: Chains of Olympus if you're only counting games made for dedicated gaming consoles and it still sold more than double DmC in just a month (as did MGR) so, hah. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 21/04/2013, 11:58
@Rafux. Capcom never forecast sales of 5 mil. According to Capcom the game has sold 1.15 mil copies and thus met its revised sales forecast. And I suppose its Ninja Thoery's fault Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman and Resident Evil 6 didn't meet sales expectations? I suppose its Ninja Theory's fault God of War Ascension is the weakest entry to the series and is selling much weaker than God of War 3. I also suppose its Ninja Theory's fault Metal Gear Rising is 6 hours long. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 21/04/2013, 10:12
"According to information sent to Capcom investors, the drop is due to excessive outsourcing of low quality games" "Capcom has also released its forecast for game sales. DmC: Devil May Cry is now expected to sell 1.15 million units, down from two million units." http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250906/capcom-halves-profit-forecast-and-cancels-games/ http://www.gamrreview.com/news/89974/capcom-ends-overseas-game-outsourcing-lowers-profit-forecast/ Hahahaha, read and cry, 1.2 M forecast is massive step down from the 5 M Crapcom wanted. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 21/04/2013, 06:48
@Heavenly_King. Capcom never said they expected to ship 5 mil copies; their revised forecast was set at 1.2 mil copies, DmC has meet that selling 1.15 copies since March 29 March. The reason those sales are not evident here is because Vgchartz dosen't track digital, PC (DmC) or Steam sales. Capcom already spit in the face of the true DMC fans when they made three sequels without the input of the series creator Hideki Kamiya. I doubt you would know anything about that having only played DMC4. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 21/04/2013, 04:39
Capcom at first expected to ship 5M! FIVE MILLIONS! Then because it sold like crap they lower it to 2M. And because the game is still performing worst than expected now they hope for it to sell 1.2M. This is what happens when you spit your fans in the face. Message | Report |
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Mezzz005
posted 27/03/2013, 09:56
A bad game. Message | Report |
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gustave154
posted 26/03/2013, 05:37
Overrated game. Glad it bombed Message | Report |
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Slimebeast
posted 18/03/2013, 03:28
@Pho_Hybrid, Capcom originally expected to ship 2 million copies by March 31 but in February this year they revised that to only 1.2 million by March 31 actually. Message | Report |
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Pho_Hybrid
posted 18/03/2013, 02:11
@Kindro well didn't capcom say they expected it sell 1.5 million? Doesn't seem too far of a strech, and if it meets that a sequel is likely Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 14/03/2013, 11:50
@Kindro, I think theres a good possibility of that. Based on Metacritic scores MGR: 82; God of War Ascension: 80; Anarchy Reigns: 71; DmC: 86. I think DmC has a good chance of winning action game of the year, unless Bayonetta 2 comes out. If it does they should do a special edition like DMC3 for PS4/720. Message | Report |
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Kindro
posted 13/03/2013, 09:21
@A203D, you are right that they should have waited. I hope they'll re-release DmC also for new consoles where it'll run at 60fps and it'll contain all DLCs + maybe some new exclusive content. Really hope this will sell well enough to get a sequel. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 13/03/2013, 12:44
@Kindro, God of War Ascension will sell more copies than DmC, but I think it will sell less copies than God of War 3. Its year on year declines man, releasing a reboot less than a year before the PS4/720 are due out was too risky for DmC. Capcom should've waited. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 13/03/2013, 11:15
@Kindro. Lets for example look at Metal Gear Rising, we can see the sales were weaker than DMC4. If we look at Dead Space 3, sales weaker than expected. The Tomb Raider reboot was successful, but compared to what? Previous Tomb Raider games sold up to 6 -7 mil copies. If we look at software sales, all software sales are featuring year on year declines. It's a terrible idea to release a reboot at the end of the console cycle. They should've waited for next gen to release the game. DMC4 came out under favourable market conditions at the beginning of a console cycle. Message | Report |
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Kindro
posted 13/03/2013, 02:17
What the f*ck happened to the gamers? When they got the same game every year like CoD, Assassin, FIFA, and now God of War: Ascension which is a huge disappointment, they are buying it like crazy. They are whining that there's not enough innovation, that games are very similar to each other, but they are still buying it like stupid sheeps. And when there is an awesome game like DmC released which brings new fresh wind to the series, you are raging, threatening the devs that you'll kill them, and then you are offended with a few "f*ck you" words in a game? There is something seriously very VERY wrong with the industry, or with the DMC fanbase at least. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 12/03/2013, 10:00
@DOMOXIII Whats your point? I'm not allowed to come here to talk about DmC because you say so? Believe it or not I don't use sales figures to tell me what games I should play. Eg Valkyria Chronicles was a good JRPG, but it didn't sell well, same goes for Catherine and even Bayonetta. Why do I need sales to tell me how to think? Message | Report |
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Sings1234
posted 12/03/2013, 12:29
I think his point is, if this new DmC is so great like you guys are saying, then why is it tanking so hard it can't even surpass DMC2, which at the time was a single console exclusive and considered the worst in the DMC franchise? Answer, because a good portion of the people that liked the originals don't like this new game, and as people always say "Vote with your wallets" and that's exactly what is happening here. No amount of brow beating or trying to twist the logic to your perspective is going to change that. Message | Report |
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DOMOXIII
posted 12/03/2013, 12:29
@A203D. You're still talking about DmC, A203D? I'm gonna take a wild guess and day that you're really bipolar... I´m not the most mentally sane person in the world, but, Jesus, you need to give it a rest... XD The sales for DmC didn't reach the sales expectation target for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 version (according to VGchartz), unlike MGR:R's sales which are almost reaching the 1 million target mark for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 version (again, according to VGChartz). Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 11/03/2013, 12:53
@zxc11223300xi. Whats your point? I'm a DMC1 fan, I'm not a DMC4 fan. So what, old DMC fans like me arn't allowed to be DmC fans? Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 11/03/2013, 01:51
Here is for the PS3. I do not care about the steam. The steam is for PC. Is it really awesome..........why can't DmC's outsell win the DMC2? (Just for TV platform) By the way, I am sorry about that because I am the old fan for DMC. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 10/03/2013, 11:39
Speak for yourself... I've go through a lot of forums including http://devilmaycry.org/ and have found that majority of the new players really like the game (you can see it on STEAM forum where almost everyone praise the game) while there is about 50% of the old DMC fans who like the game, there's also 50% from which apparently 30% haven't even played it yet, and they simply hate it because of what Tameem said or because of the hair.... LOL Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 10/03/2013, 04:01
DmC is unsuccessful because its sales number is so lower than every DMC game . New players don't like it, and old players also don't support it.-------> Double failure Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 09/03/2013, 01:48
@Fei-Hung. I've made it clear I'm not interested in what your friend has to say, or Vile for that matter. Like I said I think its time to move on with your life with DMC4 if your not happy with DmC. If Ninja Theory have hurt your feelings for whatever reason Vile, then are you sure coming into the sales page complaining about it is the way to move forward? Ninja Theory haven't insulted me, if they've hurt your feelings, then thats not my problem. Message | Report |
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Vile
posted 09/03/2013, 09:00
What users like A203D don't want to admit, with all their bullshit attacks on the opinions of others, is that no one gives a fuck about specific titles that WILL outsell DmC: DmC. Everyone has their own tastes and opinion about DMC 1-4. I personally found the first DMC very enjoyable and loathed DMC4, with DMC3 being my favorite of the litter. What the fuck does any of this have to do with my distaste for DmC: DmC? Absolutely nothing. The fact remains that the game has to stand on it's own merits. DmC is a failure on many levels BY ITSELF without even comparing it to the originals which it was supposed to exceed. It's a failure on Public Relations with Ninja Theory constantly alienating, insulting and ignorantly rejecting the original fan base's opinions/concerns. It's a failure in it's mechanics in regards to the combat system and scoring in an attempt to, once again, alienate the original fan-base for a more casual one. And lastly, it's a failure in it's story and dialog in the most disrespectful way you could possibly imagine. They took a beloved, iconic character, with millions of fans and made him into a B-Rate hipster douche bag that now has a whopping 5k sales a week to back him up. WAY TO GO NT! They didn't just dig a grave for this series, they burned it alive. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 09/03/2013, 06:19
It won't even outsell the DMC HD Collection, great job Capcom and NT Message | Report |
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Fei-Hung
posted 08/03/2013, 06:39
dudes, there comes a point where it is best to let these things go. I'm not hot on the new DmC. Yes, DMC1 for me was the best in the original franchise. Yes, everyone has their own opinion and their own theories and their own preferences, but non of it is the end of the world. I think it is time for all to move on and just go back to being happy gamers. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 08/03/2013, 10:25
@ShroudedDarkness. Again where have I said you slaughter women and children? It seems your new to the DMC series, thats why you didn't know DMC was created by Team Little Devils. They never made any of the sequels. Thus none of the sequels, not DMC2, 3 or 4 are true sequels to DMC1. I appreciate DMC4 was your first DMC game, hence why you didn't know that, but thats not my problem. Again where exactly have I referred to you in my first post? As a DMC1 fan I responded to the erroneous posts of the DMC4 fans. I admit its my personal opinion DMC4 was garbage, if you can't accept a different opinion to yours thats not my problem. I have no interest in getting banned over a Nero and Kyrie fan. I've made it clear I have no interest in your opinions or anything you have to say. If your not happy with DmC take it up with Hideaki Itusno and Capcom Japan, they designed it not me. Don't make it my problem you can't move on with your life, with DMC4 and FF13. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 07/03/2013, 10:07
@FeiHung. Looks like your DMC4 fan has shown his true colours. As do all Nero and Kyrie fans in the end! Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 10:00
Just for the record: ShroudedDarkness: "No, A203D is legit. On a different site, he once compared me and several others to Al-Queda because we didn't agree with his opinion on DmC. And this was a couple years back. Sad to see that 2+ years hasn't helped him grow up any." A203D: "We both know the individual I refereed to is a lunatic on Youtube who has threatened violence against DMC fans, who claimed to piss on the graves of dead families, and an individual who has been stalking DMC fans on facebook for two years. Either you follow that type of disgusting individual, or you stand up to him. In the same way the media has defied him, in the same way Capcom Japan has defied him, in the same way Hideki Kamiya stood up to those types of individual." You admit to accusing someone else (who you assume I know for whatever reason) of being like Al-Queda. So even though my statement of "I'll find it for you" is hyperbolus and I really don't give a fig and wouldn't waste my time looking for it... you admit to doing it to someone else. And your apparently proud of it. Over A Game. Wow. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 09:49
Every single last thing you accused me of is EXACTLY what you’ve done. Posting your opinion as fact: “DMC4 was the travesty, turning Dante into a camp cowboy then turning the DMC name into Nero and Kyrie Twilight garbage. But I guess DMC4 was Ninja Theory's fault. Hell yes more DMC5 with Nero, Kyrie, Camp Dante, and sexually objectified Trish and Lady. Because thats all NTs fault.” “If you not happy with that, take it up with Cacpom Japan and Hideaki Itsuso. Its not my problem DMC4 was an average game. Its not Ninja Theory's fault DMC4 featured over two hours of cringe worthy cutscenes featuring a cliche love story, camp Dante and Trish's boobs. “ “True DMC fans care whether DMC2,3,4 were made by Hideki Kamiya, Shinji Mikami and Team Little Devils. Without them there would be no Devil May Cry series, but most importantly without them, there would've been no DMC2 and certainty no DMC4. Thats why Bayonetta trumped DMC4 on every level. Its obvious DMC1 was not your first DMC game” “ Lol @ DMC4 character designs are phenomenal. DMC4 features the worst design of all the DMC games. DMC4 Dante is a complete rejection of DMC1 awesome. He's a camp cowboy, complete with homoerotic red cowboy boots.” “DMC4 Dante is NOT DMC1 Dante, if you think DMC4 Dante is even worthy of being compared to the original Dante, its obvious DMC1 was not your first DMC game. Its obvious you haven't spent much time playing DMC games either if you didn't know Aquila is the fastest weapon in the series. Not to mention a lot of the moves from DmC are faster than DMC4, but why would I expect someone who thinks Nero and Kyrie is Shakespearean writing to know that?” “You don't like DmC because of some idea that DMC4 is a DMC game. When in fact its not a true DMC game, its just another reboot Capcom made without the creators of the original Devil May Cry game.” Telling others what to do: “Move on with your life with DMC4, FF13-3 and RE6. Don't make it our problem.” “If DMC4 was your first game, thats not my problem. It was a garbage Nero and Kyrie Twilight story, relegating Dante to the role of camp comedian. If you enjoy that type of 'Shakespearean' story where Trish and Lady are Playboy fan service. “ “Stomping your feet on the ground like some thug dosen't grand you anything here. DMC fans don't take orders from you, no matter how much you love that Nero and Kyrie garbage.” “You don't like it, go play your masterpiece DMC4, don't give the rest of us orders on what we can or can like.” But you’re right, I’m the bad guy here. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 09:36
In regards to following you around: I'm not. The only reason I actually remember you from 2 years ago is because you are the only person I have ever seen get SO worked up over a simple game that you started accusing people of being on par with OR WORSE than Al-Queda. OVER A GAME. I was literally so stunned that I remembered your user name... which you apparently use on most sites. And apparently I (and the others) AREN'T THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU'VE DONE THAT WITH. Seriously, who ACTUALLY ADMITS to doing something like that on multiple occasions? Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 09:32
And Later on: A023D: “You don't like DmC because of some idea that DMC4 is a DMC game. When in fact its not a true DMC game, its just another reboot Capcom made without the creators of the original Devil May Cry game. If you can't deal with the fact Capcom didn't want to make DMC5 then take it up with Capcom. If you can't deal with the improvements to the combat engine, then thats not my problem, and I suggest you take it up with Capcom and Hideaki Itsuno who designed the new engine. You going to have to accept at some point that Capcom knows more about programming DMC games than you do. Stomping your feet on the ground like some thug dosen't grand you anything here. DMC fans don't take orders from you, no matter how much you love that Nero and Kyrie garbage.” So Devil May Cry 4 isn’t a DMC game… even though Capcom, Itsuno, Kobayashi, etc. all say it is and you later say “You going to have to accept at some point that Capcom knows more about programming DMC games than you do.” THEY MADE DEVIL MAY CRY 2 AND DEVIL MAY CRY 4! So what, does Capcom only SOMETIMES know how to make a Devil May Cry game? I actually missed this part: I’m apparently a thug for not liking DmC and trying to have a discussion about it. Who Knew! And seriously, at this point I’ve only stated my opinion on DmC A SINGLE TIME. IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE ELSE’S OPINION POST. Where, oh where, am I acting “like a thug” and “forcing my opinions on others”? You keep saying this, but I really don’t think you know what it means. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 09:22
@A023D At no point was I giving my opinion on things, yet you feel the need to tell me that I’m not a true Devil May Cry fan, feel the need to assume that just because I like DMC 4 that I like a bunch of other games you hated, and act as if your opinion on DMC 4 is fact. Now Michigen come in and gives an opinion on things: “DMC 4 seriously lacked new ideas, mainly in terms of level design (which is simply incredible and crazy in DmC). There was only a bunch of levels which took 2-3 hours to go through them with Nero and then you were forced to backtrack them once again with (cowboy) Dante... I kinda liked it anyway (probably mainly for great combat system with Dante and cool cutscenes), but it's retarded how much the haters of the new DmC praise the old DMC games, even though most of the players were disappointed from DMC 4 at its release and DMC 2 was total garbage. I don't get it if somebody thinks DMC is a good series. It has awful dead end with DMC 2 where Dante ended up trapped in the demon world, inconsistent story and characters. DMC 1 was great in its time, and DMC 3 was simply awesome and it can stand proudly as a separate game, but as a series it's NOT GOOD. I really hope Ninja Theory will get a chance to make a sequel, so we can can finally get a good and cohesive Devil May Cry series.” Completely opinion based statement. And it is only at this point that I give him my opinion: “Players always highly praised Devil May Cry 4's combat system and the immense depth it had. Had they evolved this battle system rather than completely scrapping it and going with Heavenly Sword 2.0, there would be a lot less complaints. Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 3 = genre revolutionizers Devil May Cry 4 = great game that had its budget slashed in half at the last moment (seriously, you should see some of the stuff they had planned in the Concept art book). Still has the most in depth battle system around with quirky and loveable characters. So Devil May Cry has 2 genre defining titles, a good/great title, and a single bad title. That's hardly a "bad" series. And about Ninja Theory making a cohesive Devil May Cry: analyze the plot sometime. It's just as nonsensical and plot hole ridden as the previous titles. Difference now is that DmC is extremely derivative of much better written works and utterly bastardizes them in the process of "taking inspiration" from them while honestly believing itself to be original and one of the best video game stories out there (or at least according to the director and script writer it is). Devil May Cry 1 - 4 never had such delusions of grandeur.” He gave his opinion and I gave my. And he even gave his opinion FIRST, so I’m still failing to see where I forced my opinion on anybody. And most of all: I was addressing Michigen, not you with this opinion. What I address you with was the post questioning where Capcom EVER said Devil May Cry 4 was the end. But whatever. Anyway, you come back with: “Not interested in your opinions. As far as I'm concerned DmC evolved the combat far beyond DMC4's restrictive system. The new system was co-created by the developers of DMC4. Hideaki Itsuno saw this as the best way to evolve the system. If you not happy with that, take it up with Cacpom Japan and Hideaki Itsuso. Its not my problem DMC4 was an average game. Its not Ninja Theory's fault DMC4 featured over two hours of cringe worthy cutscenes featuring a cliche love story, camp Dante and Trish's boobs. Move on with your life with DMC4, FF13-3 and RE6. Don't make it our problem.” So it’s still you who is the one who is forcing opinions on others, not the other way around. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 09:13
@A203D I can find the youtube video comment section where you accused me of this, if you want. Then again, I figure it'd be a waste of time since you'll come up with some asinine excuse. This is the course of events: Michigen: “Dafuq happened? Probably another proof that VGChartz is just taking all these numbers from their ass.” ShroudedDarkness: “They are probably adjusting to get closer to the NPD numbers... which were horrid.” Michigen: “Adjusting? They either know how much it sold or they are only guessing. No reason to come here every week to watch this nonsense then. I'll wait what CAPCOM will say about DmC sales in upcoming months.” ShroudedDarkness: “Here are the sales from Media Create (Japan) and NPD (North America) NPD = 187,000 sales across both systems. Media Create = 170,000 across both systems. Total = 357,000 worldwide that can be confirmed. Europe has no official sales collector, but independent retailers in at least the UK confirm that DmC dropped like a rock from the charts. So yes, VGChartz is inaccurate in this case. DmC was a major bomb. It might do 600,000 to 800,000 life time due to being so late in the console life cycle... meaning Capcom won't even break even.” ShroudedDarkness: “By the way, most companies base their financial reports off of NPD and Media Create... so they are most likely accurate.” A203D: “DMC4 was the travesty, turning Dante into a camp cowboy then turning the DMC name into Nero and Kyrie Twilight garbage. But I guess DMC4 was Ninja Theory's fault. Hell yes more DMC5 with Nero, Kyrie, Camp Dante, and sexually objectified Trish and Lady. Because thats all NTs fault.” ShroudedDarkness: “What the hell were you talking about?” A203D: “Capcom confirmed Dantes story finished in DMC4, Nero and Kyrie were designed to be the new main characters of the series. As a DMC1 fan I will never accept the way Capcom degraded the series with DMC4. It was over one way or another, thats why Capcom rebooted the series. If you didn't start with DMC1 then thats not my problem, DMC was not for you if you thought DMC4 was worthy of the DMC name.” ShroudedDarkness: “Where did Capcom confirm that? Or, you know, it could be that people have a different opinion than you do about the franchise? And you're seriously telling me what I should like and what I shouldn't based on what you feel? Whatever.” At what point was I forcing my opinion on anybody? YOU'RE the one who came in and started forcing your opinion on me, not the other way around. Message | Report |
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Kindro
posted 07/03/2013, 08:04
Retarded haters are retarded. Looks like MGR:R has broken combat (where you can with simple move block all the damage) and it's not deep enough, also it's rather short game and full of QTEs... God of War:A is just another GoW game with anything really new, combat is the same, pure recycling for money. DmC and Bayonetta are clearly the king and queen of the hack'n slash genre for this generation. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 07/03/2013, 03:44
@ShroudedDarkness: Again where have I said you slaughter pregnant women and babies? Lol. Where have I actually referred to you in my first post? As a DMC1 fan I responded to the erroneous posts of the DMC4 fans. I admit its my personal opinion DMC4 is appalling, I've never denied that. Then you actually came in with these words: "Players always highly praised Devil May Cry 4's combat system and the immense depth it had. Had they evolved this battle system rather than completely scrapping it and going with Heavenly Sword 2.0, there would be a lot less complaints." Your opinions stated as facts. To which I pointed out that if you have a problem with something you should take it up with Hideaki Itsuno, who designed the combat engine. For some reason Hideaki Itusno is yet to take you seriously... I wonder why... Might I remind you, your in a sales page for a game you don't like, stating your opinions as facts. Do you really think DMC fans will accept anything you say? Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 07/03/2013, 12:34
@A203D Did... did you seriously just justify comparing me to people who slaughter pregnant women and babies because I happen to not agree with your opinion? Wow. I'm... I'm quite literally at a loss for words. And please tell me where I just came in forcing my opinion on other. At first, all I did was give sales data. Then you come in and drop these gems: “DMC4 was the travesty, turning Dante into a camp cowboy then turning the DMC name into Nero and Kyrie Twilight garbage. But I guess DMC4 was Ninja Theory's fault. Hell yes more DMC5 with Nero, Kyrie, Camp Dante, and sexually objectified Trish and Lady. Because thats all NTs fault.” “Capcom confirmed Dantes story finished in DMC4, Nero and Kyrie were designed to be the new main characters of the series. As a DMC1 fan I will never accept the way Capcom degraded the series with DMC4. It was over one way or another, thats why Capcom rebooted the series. If you didn't start with DMC1 then thats not my problem, DMC was not for you if you thought DMC4 was worthy of the DMC name.” You said all of that before I ever gave my opinion, and then upon mentioning "Other people can have differing opinions", you hit me with this gem: "Not interested in your opinions. As far as I'm concerned DmC evolved the combat far beyond DMC4's restrictive system. The new system was co-created by the developers of DMC4. Hideaki Itsuno saw this as the best way to evolve the system. If you not happy with that, take it up with Cacpom Japan and Hideaki Itsuso. Its not my problem DMC4 was an average game. Its not Ninja Theory's fault DMC4 featured over two hours of cringe worthy cutscenes featuring a cliche love story, camp Dante and Trish's boobs. Move on with your life with DMC4, FF13-3 and RE6. Don't make it our problem." Your hypocrisy is astounding. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 03/03/2013, 02:57
Haters gonna hate. But they have no right to force their stupid opinion to others. If you don't like the game, move on. If you don't like it then it's really worth your time to spend weeks on forums trying to convince people who liked it that they are wrong? Just because you didn't like it? Waste of time to read discussions like this. I'll better go to play some more DmC (Vergil's Downfall is so close yay!), and let the haters who obviously don't have any good games they would play to write nonsense here. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 03/03/2013, 08:57
@Fei_Hung. I'll defend my rights as a consumer to play DmC without being harassed by people like this. Bless your cotton socks for naively believing what he told you. Thats some hardcore blind love for Nero and Kyrie right there. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 03/03/2013, 08:46
@ShroudedDarkness. Now I have no idea idea what the hell your talking about, but its not like that isn't par for course at this point. All I know is that you've made an accusation at me with no proof. Now you claim you've been following me on other websites. What did you honestly think would happen if you came here. You thought you could come here to tell everyone to accept your opinions as facts and I would just accept what you say. Like I said before, you don't like DmC thats not my problem, move on with DMC4. Honest you God, you are probably the most pathetic person I have ever had the displeasure of speaking with. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 03/03/2013, 07:48
@A203D Okay, I have no idea what the hell you're on about, but it's not like that isn't par for course at this point. All I know is that you likened me to people who kill millions in the name of a holy war over a game. Now you tell me that you've done this on multiple occasions to others? Honest to God, you are probably the most pathetic person I have ever had the displeasure of speaking with. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 02/03/2013, 11:06
@ShroudedDarkness We both know the individual I refereed to is a lunatic on Youtube who has threatened violence against DMC fans, who claimed to piss on the graves of dead families, and an individual who has been stalking DMC fans on facebook for two years. Either you follow that type of disgusting individual, or you stand up to him. In the same way the media has defied him, in the same way Capcom Japan has defied him, in the same way Hideki Kamiya stood up to those types of individual. The reason your here now is that you can accept you wasted two years of your life doing those things, and for some reasons DMC fans are still playing DMC against your will. Its time you and your duplicate accounts move on with your life with DMC4, because the DMC fanbase will not take orders from you. Message | Report |
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Fei-Hung
posted 02/03/2013, 02:56
@ShroudedDarkness That's some scary stuff right there bro. That is some hardcore blind love for DmC right there. Bless his cotton socks. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 02/03/2013, 12:51
@Fei-Hung No, A203D is legit. On a different site, he once compared me and several others to Al-Queda because we didn't agree with his opinion on DmC. And this was a couple years back. Sad to see that 2+ years hasn't helped him grow up any. Message | Report |
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Fei-Hung
posted 01/03/2013, 06:35
what is hilarious about the comment section is that it sounds just like the DmC game dialogue. Either you 2 are paid by NT and Crapcom and this is some sort of marketing tactic or the 2 of you dislike each other over difference of opinion. Either way, there seems to be more fire and talent behind your back and forward conversations than the game so congratulations. PS Tameem , is that you?! Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 28/02/2013, 02:03
@Shikaka And now you just sank right past A203D and lost all high ground. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 28/02/2013, 11:12
A203D, Now move on with your fuc*in ass fa*got . Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 28/02/2013, 11:09
A203D, Fu*k you with your friend's. I know who you are fag*ot. I know about your friend's in Capcom-Unity. You are all working for Ninja Theory. Now listen to me paid bit*h. Go and gath a life. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 28/02/2013, 11:04
A203D>Why do I have to give you my address? I've made it clear I have no interest in anything you say. I find it amusing how you would put something like that in the comments bar. Everyone can see what a weird fuck you are.< >You can say here giving DMC fans orders< >move on with your life with your garbage DMC4< >By the way heres my Skpe address:...Fuck You. < By the way thanks for showing your coward face. You are a son of a Bit*h. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 28/02/2013, 10:55
Lol. Why do I have to give you my address? I've made it clear I have no interest in anything you say. I find it amusing how you would put something like that in the comments bar. Everyone can see what a weird fuck you are. You can say here giving DMC fans orders, or you move on with your life with your garbage DMC4. By the way heres my Skpe address:...Fuck You. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 28/02/2013, 08:36
A203D,>You don't like DmC, not my problem< >Time to move on with your life with your Shakespearean DMC4, FF13 and RE6< > Skype address. How about no. Don't have Skype anyway.< Make an Skype account and give me your address or go and get a life. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 27/02/2013, 09:44
@ A203D The amount of "fan dumb" you display is amazing. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 27/02/2013, 09:31
Lol, Skype address. How about no. Don't have Skype anyway. Not interested in anything you have to say. I review games with strict system, I have not reviewed a single game with a perfect score for that reason. You don't like DmC, not my problem. Time to move on with your life with your Shakespearean DMC4, FF13 and RE6. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 27/02/2013, 06:09
>but why would I expect someone who thinks Nero and Kyrie is Shakespearean writing to know that?< WTF you think your are for telling me an such a thing's? Or move on with your life or give me your skype adress. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 27/02/2013, 05:58
A203D,And again your stupid reason about Cowboy boot's. >Not to mention a lot of the moves from DmC are faster than DMC4< >Why do I need to read the DMC4 novel, they've already made 4 books and 4 films about that same Twilight garbage, only the names are not Nero and Kyrie< >You don't like Hideki Kamiya, I don't give a fuck< >Don't make it my problem he told you to fuck off< >Time to move on with your life with DMC4, FF13 and RE6< >DMC4 Dante is NOT DMC1 Dante, if you think DMC4 Dante is even worthy of being compared to the original Dante, its obvious DMC1 was not your first DMC game< DMC1 was my first DMC game but I like DMC3 more then DMC1. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 27/02/2013, 12:31
@Shikala. These are the words of Hideki Kamiya: "Dante has changed”…that’s right. But from my point of view Dante has changed every time the sequel came out, and he was always different from whom I created first". DMC4 Dante is NOT DMC1 Dante, if you think DMC4 Dante is even worthy of being compared to the original Dante, its obvious DMC1 was not your first DMC game. Its obvious you haven't spent much time playing DMC games either if you didn't know Aquila is the fastest weapon in the series. Not to mention a lot of the moves from DmC are faster than DMC4, but why would I expect someone who thinks Nero and Kyrie is Shakespearean writing to know that? Why do I need to read the DMC4 novel, they've already made 4 books and 4 films about that same Twilight garbage, only the names are not Nero and Kyrie. You don't like Hideki Kamiya, I don't give a fuck, man up and tell him directly why you don't like him. Don't make it my problem he told you to fuck off. Well then enjoy your masterpiece DMC4, with Dante's red homo boots, and with Trish's big boobs. Time to move on with your life with DMC4, FF13 and RE6. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 27/02/2013, 09:06
>Nero and Kyrie Twilight story< You forgot about Dante and Kat twilight story LOL. Lilith:Is the world is your B*tch as am I?, DmCVergil:I have a bigger Di*k, Kat:Squirrel Sem*n.Very nice story LOL. Well then enjoy your masterpiece DmC with Vergil's big di*k and with Kat's squirrel Sem*n. And move on with your life. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 27/02/2013, 08:59
A203D, Shinji Mikami was the executive producer of DMC 1 and the producer was Hiroyuki Kobayashi. Kobayashi also was the producer of DMC4 and Dragon's Dogma. DMC3's executive producer was Tatsuya Minami. Now Minami is the president of PlatinumGames. DMC4 was Itsuno's and Kobayashi's first game on PS3 and Xbox360 and it came out in 2008. I don't like Kamiya because he acting like a d*uchebag.He told kotaku's journalist to eat a s*it and also in sometimes he telling to his own fanbase to F#ck off. Kamiya confirmed in his twitter that Itsuno and Kobayashi are his friends. DmC's combat was the slowest combat in the series. The good and fast combat system was in DMC3 and in DMC4. >Nero and Kyrie Twilight story Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 27/02/2013, 08:28
A203D, And again your s*itty reasons about cowboy boot's.Did you even readed DMC4's novel? Hating game for the cowboy ? Dante in DMC1 are also have a cowboy boots lol. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 26/02/2013, 09:17
Another horrible, horrible week for DmC. Won't even get to 1.2M combined. Thats what happens when you dumb down the gameplay and challenge. Message | Report |
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DarkFury
posted 26/02/2013, 07:03
These keep getting adjusted down as the actual numbers roll in. Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 26/02/2013, 06:25
The DmC's sales number is getting worse. LOL Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 26/02/2013, 05:53
@Shikaka. True DMC fans care whether DMC2,3,4 were made by Hideki Kamiya, Shinji Mikami and Team Little Devils. Without them there would be no Devil May Cry series, but most importantly without them, there would've been no DMC2 and certainty no DMC4. Thats why Bayonetta trumped DMC4 on every level. Its obvious DMC1 was not your first DMC game. If DMC4 was your first game, thats not my problem. It was a garbage Nero and Kyrie Twilight story, relegating Dante to the role of camp comedian. If you enjoy that type of 'Shakespearean' story where Trish and Lady are Playboy fan service. Go and play your DMC4. Don't try to force the rest of us to stop playing DmC's awesome fluid combat for that restrictive lock attack system. It was Capcoms idea to remove lock on to allow faster, fluid attack motions. If you can't deal with that, take it up with Hideaki Itunso. DmC's combat finally offers dedicated dogge buttons instead of having to hold a lock button to be able to dodge, a dodge which was heavily restrictive anyway. You don't like it, go play your masterpiece DMC4, don't give the rest of us orders on what we can or can like. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 26/02/2013, 05:30
No Capcom confirmed Dante's story finished in DMC4, Nero and Kryrie were the new main characters of the series. Lol @ DMC4 character designs are phenomenal. DMC4 features the worst design of all the DMC games. DMC4 Dante is a complete rejection of DMC1 awesome. He's a camp cowboy, complete with homoerotic red cowboy boots. Trish and Lady are just Playboy fan service. Thats not good character design, thats sexual objectification. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 26/02/2013, 12:15
If they actually re-reboot the franchise hopefully the japan team will do it. The art style in this game is just hideous crap, the story is hideous crap, the character designs is a piece of crap, and the gameplay too is a hideous crap. WHY The HELL STANCES!!?!?!? WHY?!?!?!!!, 2 dodge buttons, no lock on WTF! It is just as stupid as not having a jump button in an action game cough heavenly Sword cough. ninja theory guys need to learn how to approach their gameplay mechanics. @A203D: The Story of Dante was not over in 4. In DMC4 they introduced a new character so that they could have a fresher start on the 360. Nero is the Son of Vergil. Capcom at one of their conferences slipped that info. I admit the story in DMC4 feels like a side-story compared to what happens in DMC1 and DMC3, but it still was good and the character design was phenomenal. Gameplay wise with Dante is the best of all the DMC out there. it is faster and you can change weapons and styles on the fly, and not the shitty stances ninja theory is no in love with. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 25/02/2013, 09:18
DmCVergil: I have a bigger di*k. Kat: Squirrel S*MEN. Well if you like this types of story then enjoy it. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 25/02/2013, 09:13
@A203D, Who cares if DMC2,3,4 are not made by Kamiya? You think NT's story is better? Oh you are right Ninja Theory is an shakespearean story writer lol. Ore if you are a big fan of Kamiya's Devil May Cry then why have you rated DMC1 an 8 out of 10? Message | Report |
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DarkFury
posted 25/02/2013, 06:23
Sales numbers this week from UK/US/Ger look alarmingly low, nowhere near Top 30 it seems. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 25/02/2013, 01:16
@ShroudeDarkness "YOU'RE the one telling me what I like and don't like based off the sole fact that I like DMC 4, not the other way around." The fact you don't proof read your posts aside... Can you possibly get any more melodramatic? You don't like DmC because of some idea that DMC4 is a DMC game. When in fact its not a true DMC game, its just another reboot Capcom made without the creators of the original Devil May Cry game. If you can't deal with the fact Capcom didn't want to make DMC5 then take it up with Capcom. If you can't deal with the improvements to the combat engine, then thats not my problem, and I suggest you take it up with Capcom and Hideaki Itsuno who designed the new engine. You going to have to accept at some point that Capcom knows more about programming DMC games than you do. Stomping your feet on the ground like some thug dosen't grand you anything here. DMC fans don't take orders from you, no matter how much you love that Nero and Kyrie garbage. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 25/02/2013, 01:56
@A203D The fact that you don't proofread your posts aside... Can you possibly get any more melodramatic? YOU'RE the one telling me what I like and don't like based off the sole fact that I like DMC 4, not the other way around. Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 24/02/2013, 10:03
Fix it. Is Operation Raccoon City, not Raccoon City Operation. Message | Report |
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zxcv11223300xi
posted 24/02/2013, 10:02
This sale number is terrible for CAPCOM. Look at Resident Evil: Raccoon City Operation, its global sale is much better than DmC. (but it sucks) Most of all, I am very glad see DmC how bad it is. ha ha ha~ By the way, where is my favorite DMC5, CAPCOM! Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 24/02/2013, 07:36
I heard MGR was a really good game actually, I'm thinking about picking it up in a few months. I didn't think the demo was that interesting, but apparently the bosses and the rest of the game is good. That being said, its ridiculous to criticise DmC when MGR is a 4-5 campaign. The Bloody Palace free DLC is probably about 3-4 hours alone. Vergil's Downfall is apparently really good as well. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 24/02/2013, 05:03
DmC is INCREDIBLE, much better then Metal Gear Rising..those frame drops on PS3 are fcking awful. Platinum Games haven't learnt anything obviously, same problems as with Bayonetta on PS 3. DmC is GLORIOUS. Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 24/02/2013, 12:43
A203D,Go and suck Tameem's ore Kamiya's di*k for money, you like it ;) Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 23/02/2013, 09:16
Shilaka, Cry more pussy for Nero and Kryrie :) Message | Report |
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Shikaka
posted 23/02/2013, 08:30
A203D,Cry more pussy :) Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 23/02/2013, 03:45
If you love DMC4 so much, go and play it. Don't make it our problem you can handle a reboot. A lot of DMC fans thought DmC was awesome, you have no right to dictate our opinions. "Get over it you bent pussy". Message | Report |
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Vile
posted 20/02/2013, 07:12
A203D. Get your bent pussy out of here. The game is shit and far worse than DMC4. Get over it. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 19/02/2013, 12:50
@A203D Angry, much? Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 18/02/2013, 09:37
Not interested in your opinions. As far as I'm concerned DmC evolved the combat far beyond DMC4's restrictive system. The new system was co-created by the developers of DMC4. Hideaki Itsuno saw this as the best way to evolve the system. If you not happy with that, take it up with Cacpom Japan and Hideaki Itsuso. Its not my problem DMC4 was an average game. Its not Ninja Theory's fault DMC4 featured over two hours of cringe worthy cutscenes featuring a cliche love story, camp Dante and Trish's boobs. Move on with your life with DMC4, FF13-3 and RE6. Don't make it our problem. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 18/02/2013, 05:29
@MichiGen Players always highly praised Devil May Cry 4's combat system and the immense depth it had. Had they evolved this battle system rather than completely scrapping it and going with Heavenly Sword 2.0, there would be a lot less complaints. Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 3 = genre revolutionizers Devil May Cry 4 = great game that had its budget slashed in half at the last moment (seriously, you should see some of the stuff they had planned in the Concept art book). Still has the most in depth battle system around with quirky and loveable characters. So Devil May Cry has 2 genre defining titles, a good/great title, and a single bad title. That's hardly a "bad" series. And about Ninja Theory making a cohesive Devil May Cry: analyze the plot sometime. It's just as nonsensical and plot hole ridden as the previous titles. Difference now is that DmC is extremely derivative of much better written works and utterly bastardizes them in the process of "taking inspiration" from them while honestly believing itself to be original and one of the best video game stories out there (or at least according to the director and script writer it is). Devil May Cry 1 - 4 never had such delusions of grandeur. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 18/02/2013, 12:08
DMC 4 seriously lacked new ideas, mainly in terms of level design (which is simply incredible and crazy in DmC). There was only a bunch of levels which took 2-3 hours to go through them with Nero and then you were forced to backtrack them once again with (cowboy) Dante... I kinda liked it anyway (probably mainly for great combat system with Dante and cool cutscenes), but it's retarded how much the haters of the new DmC praise the old DMC games, even though most of the players were disappointed from DMC 4 at its release and DMC 2 was total garbage. I don't get it if somebody thinks DMC is a good series. It has awful dead end with DMC 2 where Dante ended up trapped in the demon world, inconsistent story and characters. DMC 1 was great in its time, and DMC 3 was simply awesome and it can stand proudly as a separate game, but as a series it's NOT GOOD. I really hope Ninja Theory will get a chance to make a sequel, so we can can finally get a good and cohesive Devil May Cry series. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 18/02/2013, 12:57
@A203D Where did Capcom confirm that? Or, you know, it could be that people have a different opinion than you do about the franchise? And you're seriously telling me what I should like and what I shouldn't based on what you feel? Whatever. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 18/02/2013, 12:53
Capcom confirmed Dantes story finished in DMC4, Nero and Kyrie were designed to be the new main characters of the series. As a DMC1 fan I will never accept the way Capcom degraded the series with DMC4. It was over one way or another, thats why Capcom rebooted the series. If you didn't start with DMC1 then thats not my problem, DMC was not for you if you thought DMC4 was worthy of the DMC name. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 18/02/2013, 12:51
A203D plays DMC games for the story hahahaha. DmC adjusted DOWN and another horrible week in sales. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 18/02/2013, 12:32
@A203D What the hell were you talking about? Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 18/02/2013, 12:24
DMC4 was the travesty, turning Dante into a camp cowboy then turning the DMC name into Nero and Kyrie Twilight garbage. But I guess DMC4 was Ninja Theory's fault. Hell yes more DMC5 with Nero, Kyrie, Camp Dante, and sexually objectified Trish and Lady. Because thats all NTs fault. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 17/02/2013, 10:06
this game BOMBED!!! hell yes! Now hopefully they will let this franchise rest in peace after the travesty NT has done. Or if Capcom is sane, they will develop DMC5 with the japanese team XD Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 17/02/2013, 09:59
4k next week WW XD Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 17/02/2013, 07:33
@Michigen By the way, most companies base their financial reports off of NPD and Media Create... so they are most likely accurate. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 17/02/2013, 07:32
@MichigGen Here are the sales from Media Create (Japan) and NPD (North America) NPD = 187,000 sales across both systems. Media Create = 170,000 across both systems. Total = 357,000 worldwide that can be confirmed. Europe has no official sales collector, but independent retailers in at least the UK confirm that DmC dropped like a rock from the charts. So yes, VGChartz is inaccurate in this case. DmC was a major bomb. It might do 600,000 to 800,000 life time due to being so late in the console life cycle... meaning Capcom won't even break even. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 17/02/2013, 11:49
Adjusting? They either know how much it sold or they are only guessing. No reason to come here every week to watch this nonsense then. I'll wait what CAPCOM will say about DmC sales in upcoming months. Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 17/02/2013, 11:04
@MichiGen They are probably adjusting to get closer to the NPD numbers... which were horrid. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 17/02/2013, 08:12
Dafuq happened? Probably another proof that VGChartz is just taking all these numbers from their ass. Message | Report |
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DarkFury
posted 17/02/2013, 12:25
Wow, looks like this was just adjusted down BIGTIME. O_o Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 16/02/2013, 07:40
@chidori-chan2 Goddamn, Capcom must be shitting bricks if they are going based off of NPD rather than VGChartz. Message | Report |
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chidori-chan2
posted 16/02/2013, 06:46
Already confirmed sales NPD of DMC Capcom may cry ~ 187k (PS3 ~ 52%) Hm, bad sales? Message | Report |
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Vile
posted 16/02/2013, 02:07
My god this game did worse than I thought. What a terrible fucking game. What a bomb. It hardly reached half of DMC4 sales and that's with a larger install base. Ninja retard theory must feel ashamed to have failed so hard, and all after they insulted the original fan base with this ridiculous smear on the DMC series. Reboot? More like a fucking funeral. Message | Report |
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Turkish
posted 14/02/2013, 11:17
This was actually a very good game despite its problems. Message | Report |
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legendarysaiyanbroly
posted 13/02/2013, 05:36
Oh, and I read ur previous comment yesterday (wasn't gonna say anything about it), and I laughed at your infinite idiocy. That however, was funny. U're in NO position 2 call any1 else ''stupid'' if u yourself r S_T_U_P_I_D enough 2 believe no1 is buying this shit because of a character's hair color. You're over-simplifying it, duh,...!!!! And the saddest thing about DmC (4u) is that it will continue to D_I_E in sales, it will continue 2b irrelevant, it will continue 2b HATED n' IGNORED by the TRUE Devil May Cry FANS, and there is NOTHING that u can do about it! Lmao @ u! XD Message | Report |
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legendarysaiyanbroly
posted 13/02/2013, 05:05
U retarded Fuckhole! who's trying 2b funny? this isn't! And how much of an imbecile can some1 b not 2 see that Crapcom has already killed the DMC franchise themselves,... and if u really ''think'' this is awesome and better than previous DMC games in any way other than graphics then yes, I agree with u,... how idiotic can some people like YOU b these days, indeed. This new DmC game S_U_C_K_S from beginning to end (except in gameplay), especially in the storyline department (boring/lame/pretentious), and it is an insult to every TRUE FAN of the series, which u clearly r fukkin' NOT; u're just another of Crapcom's Morons/Tools. Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 11/02/2013, 05:14
You stupid retard. Really funny, to want kill the entire Devil May Cry franchise and talented developers from Ninja Theory. It's hard to say how some people are idiotic these days.... I really hope we'll get DmC 2 because DmC is an awesome game. It's better than DMC 2 and 4, with better story than all previous DMCs which were full of plot holes, and after DMC 1 the whole story just went full retard. Although I like DMC 1,3,4, but each as a separate individual game. It never really worked as a series. Unlike DMC, the new DmC can finally achieve something what can be called a coherent story throughout it's sequels. Message | Report |
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legendarysaiyanbroly
posted 11/02/2013, 09:00
Average hack n' slash game at best, and extremely shitty DMC game. I'm very glad to see this game's sales dying so quickly, especially the 360 version. Also, it's a good thing for once that this is available on PC too, that way the rampant pc piracy will help kill DmC. Lol! >=) Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 10/02/2013, 04:31
The whole point of this dumbed down, westernized reboot was to gather more sales not less. Capcom and Ninja Theory failed big time. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 09/02/2013, 09:18
in every region :D Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 09/02/2013, 09:17
on track to sell 4000 units next week HELL YEAH! Message | Report |
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pandaXL
posted 09/02/2013, 06:56
great game! the ONLY thing i do regret is that i bought it from Walmart :( Message | Report |
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ShroudedDarkness
posted 05/02/2013, 12:30
@MichiGen Capcom has already reduced expected shipments of DmC from 2 million to 1.2 million, so obviously they don't expect people to suddenly decide to buy the game almost two months after release. Not only that, but Metal Gear Rising also comes out at around the same time of God of War Ascension... so people are just as likely to buy that as DmC. THat doesn't even factor in all of the other new releases. Face it, DmC failed in its objective to expand consumer interest and is on track to becoming the worst selling entry of the entire franchise. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 05/02/2013, 07:15
God of War Ascension and Metal Gear Rising will be the final nail in DmC's coffin. 80% drop in the second week Mega Bomb! Message | Report |
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MichiGen
posted 05/02/2013, 05:09
I'm sure that as soon as people realize how stupid they were for not buying this only because of the hair of the character, the numbers will go up. Also the release of God of War Ascension will help, since after that, people will want to play more hack'n slash action. The level design is gorgeous, I've never seen such things in a game before (I wonder what kind of drugs NT is using), soundtrack is sheer excellence and combat system offers such a wild combos like no other action game today. This game is a high-class and I'm sure it will have good legs! Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 04/02/2013, 07:50
after the 4th week this game will begin to sell 4000 or less units every week. Message | Report |
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DarkFury
posted 04/02/2013, 03:33
Capom just announced they are going to cut the Ship (not sellthrough) to 1.2 million, down from 2 million. So they expect to sell less than 1.2. So not looking too hot, sales-wise. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 04/02/2013, 03:30
@ ECM - The userbases are bigger, but the libraries have grown tremendously and interest changes. Genres and games that were once popular just a few years ago may not sell as well today. Well before DMC launched we already knew the hack n' slash genre was struggling. Worst case scenario, this should out perform Castlevania. And that game is getting a sequel! Message | Report |
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ECM
posted 03/02/2013, 01:53
Uh, the disparity in userbases is massive, so trying to use the 'no competition' dodge isn't going to fly--it's a bomb; deal with it. Message | Report |
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Folks07
posted 02/02/2013, 09:41
and u people should stop comparing sales,when DMC 4 came out,there simply wasnt much competition,look up the releases Jan-March 2008 (DMC 4 was releases Feb 08),The Club,Turok,Conflict Denied Ops,Turning Point....then in March we had Condemned 2 and Army of Two...thats not really competition for a great series like DMC! When the new DmC came out,people were still playing CoD Black Ops 2,Hitman or AC3 and in the next few weeks,games like Dead Space 3,Crysis 3,Aliens,Tomb Raider,GoW Ascension,Metro Last Light,Bioshock Infinite and more will be released,so compare the competition too if u compare sales! Message | Report |
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Folks07
posted 02/02/2013, 09:30
DmC is my GOTY 2013 already and it will be till the end of the year! This is what the series needed and im glad Ninja Theory showed some balls and delivered one of the best games i´ve ever played! Message | Report |
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Vile
posted 31/01/2013, 05:44
I'm happy this game bombed. This piece of shit game did worse than DMC4 which was the worst of the series. Are you happy now that you've abandoned the real fan base and catered to your non existent, meth head, low attention span, brain dead jock audience that you were trying to target? Hideki Kamiya said it best when asked what he thought of the new DmC. "Son, I am disappoint." Paraphrased of course. Message | Report |
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ishiki
posted 30/01/2013, 12:01
I like the combat a bit more in DMC4, That games biggest problem was the godawful backtracking. This games pretty good I like the art design more, the story more, but the combat less. I like it less than 3, not sure about how I feel compared to 1 and 4. It's close though and a worthy addition to the series imo. Message | Report |
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Rafux
posted 29/01/2013, 10:57
It sold WORSE than DMC4 in every region on both HD consoles and DMC4 came out 5 years ago when the install base was far lower. GOOD JOB CAPCOM! Message | Report |
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nnodley
posted 29/01/2013, 07:20
Nevermind, that is what you were doing, but I don't know why 550,000 is in anyway bad. It's not a sales record but its still decent. Message | Report |
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nnodley
posted 29/01/2013, 07:16
@chidori-chan2 You should really look at your number again for DmC: Devil May Cry because it sold almost 400,000 more than what you have. Unless your talking about just the 360 numbers. Message | Report |
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DigitalDevilSummoner
posted 29/01/2013, 06:48
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Black-Ops-2-Beats-DmC-in-the-United-Kingdom-324807.shtml ouch Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 28/01/2013, 05:58
I am quite sure the sales will bomb next week. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 28/01/2013, 03:06
@ A203D - Looking at the numbers its clear Europe really lost interest in the series after DMC2 was released. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 28/01/2013, 11:40
I'm not sure where 183,109 units comes from. DmC has sold 545,000 units within its first week including Xbox sales. These sales don't include digital downloads, Steam sales or PC sales. Capcom will decide whether it has been successful in a few months. The sales are not very strong in Europe where it seems DMC4 was detrimental to the series. Which is why Capcom felt they had to reboot the series. Message | Report |
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chidori-chan2
posted 28/01/2013, 09:55
DmC: Devil may Cry’s first week of console sales fail to meet Devil May Cry 4′s sales DmC: Devil may Cry sold 183,109 units globally, in its first week. Devil May Cry 4 sold 412,423 units globally, in its first week. I wonder if this gets a sequel or simply capcom forgets about this franchise for good just like Onimusha. capcom its just like most movie producers in Hollywood full of bad moves. Message | Report |
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miqdadi
posted 27/01/2013, 06:04
Sales are disappointing, I thought it can easily pass 1.5 M, doesn't look so Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 27/01/2013, 05:41
Its because of the Japanese sales this version has sold more copies. European sales are very disappointing. Message | Report |
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ps3-sales!
posted 27/01/2013, 04:21
Double the launch sales of the 360 version, very impressive. Message | Report |
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Kresnik
posted 31/12/2012, 11:18
This is gonna be an interesting game to follow. Cannot see it doing all that well, but who knows. Message | Report |
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TurismoT
posted 27/04/2010, 11:34
@king it's inevitable Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 27/04/2010, 03:16
Looks like Vgchartz knows the future XD. Message | Report |
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0.19m
Japan |
0.24m
NA |
0.29m
Europe |
0.10m
Others |
0.81m
Total |
| 1 | 112,406 | 92,770 | 48,916 | 39,683 | 293,775 |
| 2 | 30,720 | 16,363 | 18,305 | 8,606 | 73,994 |
| 3 | 15,123 | 8,145 | 9,387 | 4,329 | 36,984 |
| 4 | 7,156 | 5,406 | 4,740 | 2,626 | 19,928 |
| 5 | 3,959 | 2,947 | 4,775 | 1,795 | 13,476 |
| 6 | 1,945 | 1,602 | 4,167 | 1,236 | 8,950 |
| 7 | 1,592 | 1,333 | 2,688 | 899 | 6,512 |
| 8 | 1,184 | 1,317 | 2,867 | 924 | 6,292 |
| 9 | 1,021 | 1,152 | 2,390 | 789 | 5,352 |
| 10 | 1,024 | 1,102 | 1,941 | 697 | 4,764 |
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AgentRedgrave
posted 07/03/2016, 09:48
I never admitted anything. And as I said, Capcom themselves debunked your statement. Message | Report |
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A203D
posted 01/03/2016, 01:23
@AgentRedgrave. You already admitted that DMC4 was using automatic lock-on, and that DmC was using a true manual lock-on. How does lying about Hideaki Itusno now change that? How does it change that DMC4 is using an automatic lock-on? How does it change DMC4 Donte is not Dante? How does it change DMC4's slow, clunky gameplay mechanics? Let me guess you refuse to answer for the way DMC4 butchered the series yet again... Message | Report |
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AgentRedgrave
posted 24/11/2015, 02:03
@A203D Not according to Capcom, when they stated DmC's lock on was automatic, and the one added in the DE (Like the ones the previous games had) was manual Message | Report |
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[PACT]
posted 15/05/2015, 03:11
Damn, this comment section. Two years of animosity and salt. Sheesh... OT: Decent numbers for the most hated game of last gen. I really loved the soundtrack, level design, weapons and the flow/pacing of the game. But no 60fps, no manual lock-on and no aggressive enemy AI held this game back from it's fullest potential. (Fixed in the Definitive Edition though...) Message | Report |
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